“Daughter of” becomes a Caesarized actress and an internationally recognized artist, Charlotte Gainsbourg was in Paris to speak My stupid dog, the new film by his partner Yvan Attal, in which he stars alongside his eldest son, Ben. Mother of three, she was expatriated to New York for six years, where she wrote and recorded an album, took photos and drawings, but also regained the freedom of anonymity. In the filming of the next film by Benoît Jacquot, Suzanna Andler, adaptation of the homonymous drama by Marguerite Duras, is also expected in season 4 of the series Ten percent. 100% French projects announcing the return of the star to Paris.
Madame Figaro. – One of our recent surveys focuses on couple therapy and provides some keys to surviving in a marital setting. What do you think is the secret of the longevity of the Gainsbourg / Attal couple?
Charlotte Gainsbourg. – There is no secret. There is no way to do it and we are not immune from separation, from a crisis … We have no lessons to teach and we are very lucky to have resisted. There are so many couples who separate.
Tripadvisor is currently selected by restaurateurs tired of not being evaluated by non-specialists. And you, read the reviews of your films? What is your relationship with comments on networks?
I am completely protected from all this. I created an Instagram account not long ago, because I was told that I was stupid not to use it. Other than that, I don’t do anything, I don’t listen to anything and I don’t look at anything. It’s not that I underestimate critics, but it will influence me if I listen to bad things about me, it’s painful, so what’s the point? I won’t be better off in a future movie.
In our poll among the casting directors, we decided to follow the daily lives of these shadow professionals. Which casting has marked you the most in your career?
Without hesitation, my first casting with Margot Capelier. My mother had lunch with her and knew that Élie Chouraqui, the director of Texts and music, was looking for two children, one of whom was my age. I rushed to these tests, and that was the start for me. Winning, convincing, was very important. I remember waiting for weeks after the tests. I think I remember that in the end there were only two of us and I got the role; it was a great victory.
In the video “My stupid dog”, the trailer
The dressmaker of Elizabeth II revealed in a book how the queen broke the protocol for playing with James Bond. And you, what was the craziest thing you did to get a role?
It’s not something I’ve done more crazy, but it seemed incredible to be chosen Antichrist. My meeting with Lars Van Trier was not very promising. He hadn’t given me a scene. I had the feeling that he wasn’t very interested and that I wasn’t suffering enough for him, given the role. To my surprise, two days later he called me to tell me that I had been chosen. I went to Denmark, to Copenhagen, to meet him. The time I tried in Los Angeles, pregnant to the teeth, that may have been the craziest thing I’ve done.
“Watching a horror movie is a way of feeling alive,” commented Dominique Sipière, a specialist in classic Hollywood cinema. Do you like horror movies and which spectator are you?
I was raised in horror films. My first memory of the cinema dates back to 1975, I was 4 years old and my mother took me, my sister and I, to see jaws without obviously realizing it was one. My sister was 8 years old and I don’t think she traumatized her as much as I did. I never really got over it. I have the soundtrack in mind, it was sealed in my gut.
In one of our recent surveys on differentiated education, we decided to identify the interests of this type of system, in particular by questioning teenagers about their feelings. How were the college years for girls and boys?
I currently live in the United States, and there is a lot going on there, but I can’t see the bright side. I feel it is a step backwards. What struck me as a teenager was the discovery of boys. If the history of the school is only performance. So yes, we make toy soldiers not interested in sex. But if school is also the school of life, we need many things! I know that my first sexual awakening as a teenager was one of the most important things.
Chubby thighs, protruding ears, more generous forms, more atypical physique … In the world of fashion, the codes of beauty are evolving. What is your definition of beauty and how do you feel beautiful?
I find all the women beautiful. And the more we broaden the spectrum of beauty standards, the more we will all become richer. There is nothing worse than these stereotypes. My girls are in the United States and the thing I fear most are the canons of American beauty: big breasts, excessive makeup, the side contouring. I find it super depressing and it is above all a nightmare for girls who are not in these canons of beauty. I know I’m flat as a breadboard, but I had my mother’s model, which was not much more trained. Since she is considered one of the most beautiful women in the world, she hasn’t given me a complex. But I’ve had a lot. Specifically, compared to my mother, I was much less beautiful. I was an ugly duckling and I felt very complex for a long time.
Top Cindy Bruna recently gave us her good addresses in New York. What attracts you to this city and makes you stay there?
The fact that he is not at home. But I’ll be back, I feel that’s all, I took the time it took. In the end, six years will have passed from home, okay. I needed it, I love New York. I will miss him very much, I love being anonymous. Once I find myself there, being able to go completely unnoticed on the streets, having nothing to do with the way I am dressed, it gives room for something else. It allowed me to look at people, talk to them and made me much more open and curious. I hope that when I return to Paris I will have acquired something. I’m not going to go back and curl up like I’ve always done.
Our subject Eco-citizens by nature has recently enlarged the modern heroines who cultivate the desire to improve their environment. What are your ecological gestures?
I would like to be much more. But I don’t have the weapons, I don’t have enough education. Maybe I’m not listening enough. In New York, there is the sorting done on plastic, paper, so we do it, of course, it’s mandatory, but we don’t do it in full awareness. We don’t really know how materials are reused, what the chain is, how we can help … I, in Paris, there is no order. We are completely backward. I think we should all be aware of what we put in our toilets … Now we see in hotels that it has become very common, to make us aware of the washing of the sheets and not to give all our towels every day, because you realize the mass of cleaners they have to use.
“I didn’t think you got rid of it,” was what Michael Douglas said to his son Cameron on a TV set, after the latter had almost been drugged. Do you remember a memorable phrase that your father said to you? And do you often repeat the same phrase to your children?
I wanted to do my nose when I was a teenager, I was very complex. My father said to me, “It would be the biggest mistake you would make.” All your identity and above all all your personality resides in the nose and women who have a redone nose lose their personality. “He told me very convincingly, and I repeat it today to my children, who are sometimes not satisfied with their appearance.
The founder of the Collector Square luxury resale site made its best sale with a Hermès crocodile bag sold for 50,000 euros. What is the greatest gift you have ever had in life? And if not, who do you give gifts to?
I make gifts to my children because I know what they want. What has always embarrassed me is that I didn’t know what to give my father because he had everything. There were, of course, the drawings, the plasticine and the works that were brought from school. But once I was a little older, I wanted to please her, I had money and I was completely destitute. As for me, when I was very young – I must have been 16 years old, the money I made in the movies was put into the Caisse des Dépôts and delivered because I wasn’t allowed to touch it. I had a small percentage that I could have fun with. It was much more than pocket money, it was quite real and I bought myself a Chloé jacket. I think it was worth 10,000 francs at the moment. It was insane. I think I was ashamed to talk about it and I think I kept it for myself.
Our travel section lists the new addresses in vogue in the mountains. What does a successful holiday at home look like?
It is always an active and family vacation. I hate doing nothing, I’m deeply bored on a beach. Today I really want to travel. I’m tired of going to the same places, I want to discover the world.
What will be the next destination?
I’ve been there before, but I dream of taking my children and Yvan to Russia, but also to Ukraine, because my father’s parents came from there. I’d like to find out a little closer to where I come from.
Alex Beaupain told us he was not at his best. And you, what makes you optimistic?
Inattention. I think it’s a form of optimism. Unaware. And I am deeply: I don’t go out so badly. I ignore the complaints. Suddenly, things are erased fairly easily.
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